The case for cadaveric surgical training benefitting patients is clear. Surgeons must be trained to the highest standards to provide the best possible quality of care, and cadaveric simulation training offers a way to help achieve this.1 What is less clear is how the increasing demand for cadaveric training can be met in a way that is ethically considerate to the body donors, without whom this valuable training would obviously not be possible. As Ms Walker2 says in her paper, body (...) donation is primarily driven by the altruistic motive for others to benefit after the donor’s own lifetime. The sense of pride and satisfaction …. (shrink)